The bishop of Augsburg turned with sharp words against the German Secretary of Family Affairs. This raises the double breadwinner marriage to one „ideological Fetisch “.

(, Augsburg) bishop of Augsburg kreuz.net, Mons. Walter Mixa, criticized the plans sharply to care of children mechanism of Secretary of Family Affairs Ursula of the Leyen.

The reported the catholic press agency `KNA'.

These plans are „harmful fixed for children and families and on one side on an active promotion of the gainful employment by mothers with infants “, explain the bishop on Thursday in Augsburg.

The family policy of the minister is directed primarily to recruit „young women as worker reserve for the industry “. It does not serve child well-being or the stabilization of the family.

Woman of the Leyen wants to furnish 500,000 additional care of children places in the next six years. This would entail costs of annually approximately three billion euros.

Altogether the minister wants that in the coming years approximately 750,000 infants in cribs and of child minders are cared for. At present about 250,000 children are in such care mechanisms.

Bishop Mixa criticizes that the family Ministry wants to shorten other family achievements, around new mechanisms of the care of children to financiers. That is „a socio-political scandal “.

This thought pattern of the ideology of the national foreign support of children in the GDR would remind.

By a such policy the double breadwinner marriage almost to one „ideological Fetisch “one raise.

Who suggests mothers by financial advantages to already giving their infants shortly after the birth to national support degradiere her to one „bearing machine “.

Mons. Mixa suggested instead of its winning mothers educating their children in the first three years of life outweighing or exclusive at home and promoting it thereby financially.

The bishop unterstüzt therefore the demand `of the family federation of the Katholiken' after an education content for all parents. Thus the costs of a except-family support or the losses of earnings in consequence of an children's education could become balanced alternatively.

Furthermore Mons demanded. Mixa to recognize child education times for the pension insurance.

Criticism expressed Mons. Mixa in addition at the fact that in the family Ministry still the same coworkers and advisor are active as in times of the red green government:

„Prevail there still the old socialist conceptions, which are ennobled now by the new Secretary of Family Affairs with the label `christdemokratisch'. “

zwobbel: Lehmann of the Nestbeschmutzer must withdraw!

Straight one came in a Nachrichtenticker
(http://rhein-zeitung.de/km/),
that Kungelkardinal Lehmann now also still as Netzbeschmutzer geriert itself and Excellency Mixa publicly finishes!!!
*kotz*

Away with this hireling!
Catholics resists you Nestbeschmutzer!

Stephanus: brother theophil and the number of 1390…

… it is natural not in principle sin if one argues
once apart from the fact that one can lure times „the opponent “kitzeln around it from the reserve.
as a combat observer, with the German Federal Armed Forces ' s gives sowas, there makes themselves one its notes happened and can in the evening then the own strengthen and weaken as also those of the opponent to evaluate.
one makes that, in order to come further, in order to become perfect and around the opponent as fast as possible to defeat be able
the latter is carried by the human thought that everyone grants those the fight be in former times terminated can to innumerable humans lives retained and often irreplaceable material worth before the destruction.

which goes off here within many ranges with kreuz.net, resembles however rather a mud battle, only by the thought carried (from both sides) as can I as much as possible mud whirling up around me as a wild sow to present be able.
to whom is that useful???
the call of the holy Roman catholic church surely not.
the if possible short, and material-careful, fight with the goal of the victory do not live also.

the truth identification also not!

here in these Ruprik „… bearing machines “still around the eigendliche topic one fences????

no!

if also in demand or to the combat observer and arbitrator does not order, I dare to interfere nevertheless:

yellow-red for some

red for most.

volunteer closes for the duration of the current chamfering time!

as preparation for blessed a Easter!!!

Amen!

Brother Theophil: @ homo…

… at most disgust I me before deliberate stupidity. On the other hand this feeling creates also a healthy distance. E.G. to you.

homo erectus: Who would have thought that!

You are not so strict with itself, brother Theophil! They do not have to disgust themselves nevertheless by itself…, something self-criticism would do it already!

Brother Thermophil: To maureen brother Theophil:

Brother Theophil: @ maureen

They have really rarely dämliche arguments

Well, of you I heard still no better arguments. How still was with the glasshouse? Beautifully that I disgust you. There we have nevertheless finally times which together.

Lucie Fehr: , You continue brother Theophil your fight!

My solidarity, in order to use this modern term, is valid for your untiring employment for Christian values.

Do not let from Frauenrechtlerinnen like this Maureen and this inexpressible `Liebespaar' confuse itself. I know that it is not simple.

Fortis into fide

Lucie

maureen †: THEO…

They would like nevertheless surely voluntarily without the church holidays of the calendar year to do, or want you to the reproach of the Schmarotzertums to expose themselves

Nothing dearer than that,
if the nation for it without you to do may!!!

They have really rarely dämliche arguments, Theo.
Do you know which?

They disgust me!

(♥) pfläumchen †: derfux+*thermo*phil

already fux. I believe you have quite *lol* in the glasshouse.

@thermpphil: from whom is *theo*phil sock-pupates? matthias22 does not say virfortis is it. things do not make a completely kirre if one wers are white

@arkanum: above all the line with the däumchen thanks *hihi* sweetly genuinly for your poem

Brother Theophil: @ Quarkanum

Their contributions in this forum do not offer VALUE ADDs. They should take better distance of it to posts.

derfux: The parliamentary managing director of the Party of Democratic Socialism in the Saxonian federal state parliament, Dr. André cock explains:

When konfessionell not bound politician will I naturally any interference into internal-church affairs contain, has however in view of enormous „bearing machines “- the reproach a question: Is it applicable the fact that after canonical right the catholic marriage is put on by descendants by definitio nem on a witness and such a actually indissoluble marriage can be cancelled nevertheless if later turns out that one is generation unable the partner and this concealed before the wedding? I would never come on the idea to speak only therefore of „bear Ehen “would like however to bishop Mixa the good advice to give: Who sits even in the glasshouse, should not throw with stones.

Source: www.sozialisten.de

Arkanum †: Oh pardon!

There I must correct myself, brother Thermophil. In the thing it remains however with the saying. Until later then!

Brother Thermophil: Arkanum

Please do not confound me with this sock doll Theophil!

Arkanum †: No concern, brother Theophil.

I did not regard women ever as „bearing machines “. Quite the reverse. Pfläumchen was even the opinion, I is „woman amplifier rather “- whole in the positive sense. Probably in demarcation to the proposal, it is the Beinchen… well, I wants no longer further with it to deal! Became never I post such a thing.
Thus - until later! One sees oneself.

Brother Thermophil: Arkanum: But do not forget,

(♥) is no Gebärmschine pfläumchen! Treat please carefully!

Arkanum †: There you err, brother Theophil.

No one night stood. Tomorrow we will again meet and the relationship - with you dealt! - is put on on durability. Later marriage not impossible. That should be nevertheless actually pleasant you!
Unfortunately I will have to interrupt the dispute here. I will then go still another one point in another thing post and me temporarily off-lines, because also in puncto Hartz IV was VirFortis times the wrong steamer…

Brother Theophil: @ Arkanum

Pfläumchen is not momentarily with me, but she lets align you that she is not bad you. Only high-grade surprises

Well, then I am really relieved and must did not beichten to go. Uff… and I already thought that I must tear my shirt up and cover my head with ashes therefore. Say to her that my thanks for so much Grossmütigkeit it will eternally afterwards-creep.

Which you call love, sounds itself first times after a One Night conditions. I think, we have in principle different views of this word. Therefore a closer lighting is not worth.

Arkanum †: Not very like a Christian, brother Theophil…

to speak thus about loving, or? We never do that. If everyone can read - and on the other hand to become acquainted with in the forum dear humans nobody is probably protected. As you can reread down, we did not even come to the topic, because we were insulted directly to the beginning.
Pfläumchen is not momentarily with me, but she lets align you that she is not bad you. Only high-grade surprises, what one gets to hear in catholic forums in such a way everything!

Brother Theophil: @ Arkanum

They began however on this side with Brunft and Balzritualen (also everyone can read), which really interest nobody. Thus you keep these details for itself, because this side does not serve the sexual prostitution. Neither in word nor in act.

Arkanum †: There you are, brother Theophil!

Already strangely. VirFortis had been interested very much in it and was not promptly on it pleases - probably Pfläumchens entry had not read and is promptly landed on the completely wrong steamer…
Is VirFortis not catholic?
In addition there was not Pfläumchen and I, which began with the offenses. That can read far down everyone…

Brother Theophil: @ Arkanum

Whether you believe it, or not: It is completely all the same to the catholic participants of this side from which PC you posts and with whom you about under a cover diverts itself. It does not belong simply here. Keep your vanities and your Wichtigtuerei for itself. Then you do not need to be surprised also at losses.

Arkanum †: Is correct, methusalix

Actually we wanted to report only of Sabine Christiansen, but that was not possible at all with these losses. Well well - now you reported, why we do not have to do it any longer.

About Sockenpuppenparanoia: Pfläumchens last entry came not from mine, but from its PC - with completely different script IP.
Which one can read besides noticed only in the editorship…
That we gepostet yesterday from the same PC, we ourselves had written - and that then the IP agrees, is no miracle!
Or?

(♥) pfläumchen †: huhu theo

does ' s go better?
yesterday my friend +ich in saw the bishop watching television. that want I to tell however was not added. *g* because of machosprüchen.

@methusalix: become vir and the brother always in such a way failing?
there are you completely different. many more nicely

Brother Theophil: To the escort… the today's reading.

READING book Levitikus 19, 1-2.11-18
The gentleman spoke to Mose: Speech to the whole municipality of the Israeliten and say to them: Are holy, because if I, the Mr., your God, are holy.
You are not to steal, not deceive and would not amount to each other. You are not wrongly with my name to swear; you would become otherwise the names of your God entweihen. I am the gentleman.
You are not to exploit your next one and not to bring him around the Seine. The wages of the Tagelöhners are not to remain over night up to the morning with you. You are not to curse pigeons and to a blind one no obstacle into the way place; rather you are to be afraid your God. I am the gentleman.
Are to do no injustice to her in the jurisdiction. You are to take neither for a small one nor for a large party; fairly you are to arrange your master comrade. You are not to slander your master comrade and not put you and to demand the life of your next one. I am the gentleman.
You are not to carry hate in your heart against your brother. Reprimand your master comrade, then you will load because of him no debt on you. At the children of your people you are not to avenge yourself and enter afterwards them nothing. You are to love your next one like you. I am the gentleman.

Celebration: Which were

those woman-end for those catholic 2000 years other one than bearing machines?

That itself now a bishop (who is that actually: Mixa?) expresses in such a manner is nevertheless times again

methusalix †: Well there hab' I which misses, last night!

Good morning together, above all brother Theo! Are you today better? Yes? Well then we want again times: They write boldly that the clerics are the only one, still the Turbolapitalismus denounce.
Is that really like that?
No, by no means. Because then good bishop Mixa would not have begun over bearing machines to schwadronieren, but the companies with sharpest formulations denounced, which destroy families despite exploding profits, existences to destroy and from workers their fair wages withheld. Then it would have begun a justice debate, which would have let the field men, Essers and Kleinfeld with red ears stand there such as school boys? Did it lose in addition also only one word that women must be gainfully employed, because their men receive nothing more, or for our high price country much too little wages? Partly even still under that social welfare assistance/Hartz iv-set, which is now really a minimum insignificant, with which one live and not die cannot.
He said nothing to shark fish capitalism! Silence in the forest! Not times last night, as he with support of blocked Gabriele Kuby (by the way to the large laughter of the round her lies of „child hell Sweden “to spread wanted) with Mrs. Christiansen sat. No word to income situation with small people. It went away-giving in each case around „the Rabenmütter “those their children. Whereby the bishop had naturally eaten chalk and „the Rabenmütter did not want at all to have “truely.

VirFortis: also good night agathenon

rest you out…
tomorrow again a arduous hartzIV day before you you have with Provokationspostings to waste may…

(♥) pfläumchen †: virfortis

ours scripts have the same ID because we from the same PC to have gepostet *lol* DO know nevertheless where I are!!
despite all good night

Arkanum †: We that you err, hope Mathias22 -

but I am afraid, you am right!
By the way: for tomorrow Schiri Hoyzer has an anti-gay was announced on kreuz.net. I ask myself whether that the first foothills were not… and both gays, but only found „a unkeusches “hetero couple… at the wrong time at the wrong place!
I will go to off-lines shortly, my sweet one change already. But we were will already meet this tomorrow! Can become merry.
If we do not hear ourselves any longer, good night and thanks!

VirFortis: the identities

arkanum, lauschi, pad, agathenon, pfläumchen decrease/go back on the same user. around to recognize one actually needs none scriptid, which finds a 92%tige identity agreement.
tap on all forum members: to synonymous mentioned do not react

Matthias22: @Arkanum

Unfortunately I cannot confirm this suspicion. Even if both are apparent quite soul related and the same rituals indulge in, one cannot subordinate them probably, the same person to be (some Postings are simply too different). But I am rather sure me that both know each other. And if one compares times the time intervals of the answers, both know each other probably correctly well. But I became feuen, if I err. A Irrrer is better than two.

(♥) pfläumchen †: matthias22

thanks from me also
*lol* with me the 2 falls also by the andren rasters *kicher*
we now go into bed you a good night
and then we continue to think times over virfortis proposal from 23.11 after *fg* however tomorrow post we. promised

Arkanum †: Thanks, Matthias22 -

Pfläumchen and I were article of the last Postings and sit straight together & entgeistert before the PC whether such Ergüsse in view of harmless lovers like us…
Also us no better explanation falls!
Do you divide for the first time the suspicion applied by us that VirFortis is a sock doll (=Zweitaccount) of Theophil?

Matthias22: (♥) pfläumchen:

Naja, lies' its Postings and draws your conclusions. By the other rasters it unfortunately fell through,

Arkanum †: Which höööre I, brother Theophil?

Satanist?
Loves under will?
Do you have itself therefore so over Pfläumchen and me excited?

(♥) pfläumchen †: matthias22

is satanist theophil?
as it specified itself evenly could we it believe *fg*

Matthias22: @Bruder Theophil

Brother Theophil, welch' imaginative name. Does one have you Satanisten not already long the account closed? Do you try to still arouse the impression, you sei'st a strammer creditor? As erbärmlich. The only one which this forum you give can is compassion… however for it look you nevertheless also, correctly? Of course the call by-rode after „thinking “without trace at you. Poor mad. Purgatory likes, which is deeply in your faith rooted, yours you warmth to give. But in one you do not have won… Mixa become more blessed by you.

Frasim: @Gotthard

Do Sie's find now good that bishop Mixa came „into colors “or not? Their last sentence related your entire statement somehow… And Dyba writes (wrote) believes itself with Y-silon…?:)
HP: I await here still strained to an answer…
MfG

(♥) pfläumchen †: theofortis

are we sourly today?
we nevertheless never and which did! we love ourselves only
is that was now???

Brother Theophil: @ God hard

I say simply times: Clothes do not replace arguments…

And Postings replace also no intelligence… and already not at all the faith.

Arkanum †: Thanks, God hard…

finally a polite poster!

God hard: Finally

Finally times a bishop in colors… plenis coloribus.
I cannot remember a bishop in Soutane and Pileolus on the television to have ever experienced. Even bishop Düba came in the suit…
I say simply times: Clothes do not replace arguments…

(♥) pfläumchen †: theofortis

those asks is still open!
slowly believe I freddie *loool*
not badly its

Brother Theophil: @ plum

… you go simply again with Arkanum into the kindergarten. There one understands „graduate students “.

Arkanum †: TheoFortis or Virphil…

with the coordinated Postings that is not completely wrong!

(♥) pfläumchen †: huhu virfortis

I believe YOU make that was here
we greet politely +werden insulted
and remain ever more kavalier *lol*
HP are their two not nevertheless a person like freddie meant?

VirFortis: pfläumchen

please is so well spreads the beinchen also further, because if arkanum about your pfläumchen has he does not worry time here imbecility to posts…

Brother Theophil: @ Arkanum

They would like nevertheless surely voluntarily without the church holidays of the calendar year to do, or want you to the reproach of the Schmarotzertums to expose themselves?

Arkanum †: In order to avoid misunderstandings, methusalix

I follow Pfläumchens Posting, not the Vorpostern!

(♥) pfläumchen †: theophil

nonsense
neither senile nor bed escape, on the contrary I kanns confirm

Arkanum †: That, methusalix,

I follow thanking!

VirFortis: Arkanum

is correct - mitlerweile I you already a little became acquainted with.
As inciters, troublemaker and Lächerlichmacher

Brother Theophil: @ Arkanum

Why do you come again… I conjecture… senile bed escape? Probably sounds.

(♥) pfläumchen †: hello methusalix

I may thank you for your tips in verhütungsthread *fg*
the correct were *fg* my friend see nevertheless also in such a way. loves greet

Arkanum †: Hello VirFortis,

good evening!
With that was can only Schiri Hoyzer and its troop answer. In addition that is to be not until tomorrow. Perhaps were there in addition, only großmäulige sayings. One knows these types…

Brother Theophil: @ Arkanum

I was already yesterday „the Häretiker “, however for a long time no more did not gepostet

Was noticeable none. Why do they come back?

VirFortis: Oh Arkanum

Which is with your announced „was “for today.

Arkanum †: No concern, methusalix…

It gotten probably representatively of me „the dirt sow “off, I was „the Häretiker “, however for a long time no more gepostet already yesterday and was not available all day long…
there you had to probably substitute as valve!
But fun aside: Continue, kreuz.net need people like you!

Brother Theophil: @ plum

whether they it believe or… however your place of residence do not interest me not.

(♥) pfläumchen †: theophil

hello good evening
politely like always *grins*
do they know where I are…?

Brother Theophil: @ Matthias 22

The only reason for it here to posts: Wild pig would like to rub also times against the German oak.

Matthias22: Mixa in the pool of broadcasting corporations

Thus times completely honestly… that reason of Mixa to only specify itself in such a way here consists nevertheless only of appearing in the press. The man does not have a concept except „I sag' times which completely Dolles “. Dear Christians, want to really follow it a man, who wants to be simply only times famous? Who of you knew Mixa before? Whole weakly…

Brother Theophil: @ methusalix

They are simply only ill. The church is probably the only organization far and broad, which puts still the finger into the wound of turbo-capitalism. Who otherwise? Trade unions??? That I do not laugh. They suffer from extreme reality loss and strike eifach only drauf to meet in hope something in connection with church. [Of the editorship zensuriert].

methusalix †: , Kokul observes correctly!

Kokul: … And the CDU wants to bring us on the rail, which both married people are to work, so that it is not noticeable in such a way, that the dad less and less earned…

Is it nevertheless like that the CDUler according to proclamations, if the trade unions for the employees call the fair wages in.

And the Mixas of the catholic hierarchy does not have itself also absolutely out-done with that to denounce the sky-crying sin, which is called there: Their gerwchten wages from workers withhold.

Those rather insult the women; that is simpler.

Matthias22: @Artois

… I found the use of a foreign word beautiful. But if this is the only one, which occurs to you in addition, is not forgotten you accurately in the target group of my Posts… thus „thinking “.

Kokul: Mixa has nevertheless perfectly quite…

The mother belonged to its children, that is nevertheless normal. And the CDU wants to bring us on the rail, which both married people are to work, so that it is not noticeable in such a way, that the dad less and less earned…

methusalix †: Thus this Wenigzeiler becomes the habit with you Sulpi! Already so tiredly? With bus exercises en

spent? Let Sie's be good, Sulpi, you come nevertheless anyway into the sky. With the opinions that cannot at all be other.

Sulpicius: @SiriloWir are on the best way into a full-socialist republic, and bang bags such as God hard endorse also still. People, wakes up!

You have small Sulpi at socialism, as it there thus somehow introduce yourselves, somewhat at all not understood.

We are not on the way in full or halfsocialist society, but already agnekommen in the society of purest shark fish capitalism. And with full approval and even the support of the catholic hierarchy.

Those always put to the powerful ones to bed, if enough are only not socialist. If which other bad are, as fascist or that is also despotisch the hierarchy wurscht. Main thing it gets the portion of power, which it wants to have.

Thus no fear Sulpi the fact that your children are fetched tomorrow and obligatorily the sozialistsichen Indoktrination is supplied. Rather still the catholic GESTAPO of the Santa mafia comes and drags your children obligatorily to the Beichtstuhl. But that is nothing bad, or?

Sulpicius: @Sirilo

We are on the best way into a full-socialist republic, and bang bags such as God hard endorse also still. People, wakes up!

Vibrate: Why the excitement?

Bishop Mixa did not say nevertheless, the mother of seven children, career woman minister Ursula of the Leyen, is a bearing machine. Although that would be correct.

Romulus: @Gotthard

I still wait for your answer.
In this Thread further down. ?:)

God hard: Recommendation

Urgently I recommend a visit in many to bishop Mixa kath. kindergartens… a good time am against 12 o'clock - if the mothers and few fathers its children fetch… Discussions locally form…

Artois †: @Matthias22

Are they abandoned by all good spirit? Which plappern it here so infantil around!

Matthias22: Leave from the faith?

Love of friends,
after the study of your contributions I needed to dovetail first times something time here… such a nonsense like it some I for a long time no more did not read. It is already conscious to me that Internet forums are particularly a play meadow for fast thoughts, but people… do not read you, what writes it? I hope completely honestly that you only a fraction of believe, what it here common. What is this nonsense with „in the first 3 years MUST the child only… excluding ONLY with the mother remain “?? Will find no respectable scientist, who confirms you this to her. And constantly this reference to the GDR… does not occur to you anything better? Does your life turn still only around this state?

If their already outrider „protect “faith to be want, then take you away also in such a way. Only because a poor bishop in its Kämmerlein up-frightened and theories from the grey Vorzeit down-prays, do not have you your understanding to switch off. Makes what Christians at the best one can do… assign it, he white it nevertheless not better. Puts you nevertheless times into his position. Each week withdraw innumerable people from the church. The Past schlittert from a fat cell in the next. And suddenly 2000 years should be old conception of the world of the woman to be wrong? This conception of the world, which by men one formed, who really know, what the best for woman and child is and loosely from there of both to have said itself? … Humans of people… think times of it after…

möchtegern kathole: sovereignty in the air…

… over the cradles stop costs which - 16000, - is there the politicians not too much

it is already ideology total, if one liked to shorten parents the child benefit (and/or inflation conditioned through non-increase to melt would like) and then however much money in cribs puts.

Here the politicians want to prescribe for humans, like it to live have - and that is giants sauerei.

Stephanus: kunderbuntes in disorder like so often:

we adhere to the facts!
Sweden or ago.

we live here: in Germany:

is comparable to a country 17jahre after the so-called reunification and, if someone writes: we get ever more GDR conditions!

what for is a 1x1, if one is ready for one kindergarten crib odersonstwienamen - place 16.000Euro in the year to spend can, but not ready the child benefit should accordingly to be increased?
I think that has only one reason:
if a freedom of election would take place, the worth feeling of young women was raised as mothers thereby, then we and these would not have vorrausschau are under any circumstances wishful thinking, already in five years full employment!
this calculation to implement here needs more wie1500zeichen:
but completely roughly: there the desire to the child is!

it is prevented through viellerlei uncertainties to be spread.

under the conditions of one secure future also in Germany a woman 2-3 children was gotten.
that would mean however:
per year approx. 300-500tausend women for the job market would be omitted,
with above child number that approximately 7-10jahre time-out, that lasts times: 3,5-5millionen

with 16.000euro child benefit per child did not need it hartz4,
there would be still deposits
in insuring,
health insurance companies,
pension security systems,
it would have requires in the industry for baby-und child products,
other automodels,
larger houses,
more train,
more teachers,
caretaker etc. etc. etc.:

do they notice which?????

obelix †: HP at Sulpi

… nice pictures of the Bernadottes.

Did you know that in Sweden the common Pöbel with the king family by YOU is?

No miracle that God hates Sweden. With such behaviour.

methusalix †: Magnificent side, Sulpi!

… and so simply made.

Stupid way hates their God also America.

And I can it in no case go through let that.

Where would we come there, if God such a all-Christian country, how its own would hate?

God bless America! It has its benediction more urgently necessarily, than all other countries in the world.

Sulpicius: @methu

That will please you:

God of hates Sweden

methusalix †: 12345

Romulus: @Gothard - children into the crib and women into production
… that children are not to have but their mother need changing reference persons in the first three years. Sweden is in this sense for children hell.

They know each other however out in Sweden, Romulus; large radix complement! Do you have also longer time there used? Do you know the surrounding field for children in Sweden from own Ansuchauung, or by the children of your family?
Thus I lived there and the children of my relatives growing up there to see. What am I to say to you? Their statement „Sweden is hell for children “is erstunken and erlogen. If you put on the well-known German „child friendliness “as yardstick, Scandinavia a Kinderparadies is whole. But only then. If you see it by the black, catholic eyeglasses, it must be completely clearly hell. Does not go at all differently. Where otherwise would catholic self-confidence remain being in the exclusive possession of the divine truth?

HP: Hello Sulpi! How was your pseudonym as IN? They were nevertheless with the state security service? Or from where do you know each other in GDR conditions so well out? Thus normally is like that which not!

Sulpicius: Away…

… GDR light with this socialist republic „“!

möchtegern kathole: naturally one wants…

… force more women by shortening family allowances (Slitting, child benefit) to work than today work. In addition one takes the saved money and finances the national Kinderaufpasserin. Over the income tax of the women pays then.

In sum the state per Kinderaufpasserin pays an amount, which it back-gets over the income tax of the 20 women (no longer at home watch out and instead of its commercially work) approx. 10fach. That counts itself, and how!

Romulus: @Gothard - children into the crib and women into production

It gives to help other and more effective possibilities the women than with „the shitting GDR creches “. Each halfway clear scientist confirms today the fact that it is essential for the psychological and emotional development that children are not to have changing reference persons in the first three years but needs their mother. Sweden is in this sense for children hell. In addition, my friend, otherwise you indulge in nevertheless also not so capitalism. Which you would say, if history in South America played and any it would build a crib for plantation Fritz that mummy soon the plantation schuften goes. Well, understands? God hard, sorry, but in this question is and remains you a bang bag and a nebula candle thrower.

God hard: locally visits

I hope, bishop Mixa in the coming week various department stores and supermarkets will visit - and with „the bearing machines working there “speak… an independent purchase with Aldi, Lidl and CO could be also completely informative.
A lunch in the refectory of the there university could contribute also to the knowledge extension - why does it speak only about the students and not with them?
A visit in kath. the meeting places for alone-educating mothers could be likewise informative - or in the advisory boards of the bistümlichen Caritas.
Urgently I recommend a visit in many to it kath. kindergartens… a good time am against 12 o'clock - if the mothers and few fathers its children fetch… Discussions locally form…

makakema: Well finally!

Our bishops wake up and offer these us leagues a party, in addition still earthtraveled themselves „C “in the name to carry, Paroli.

It would not be more appropriate to make possible for the mothers or fathers to care for their children at home. From my point of view completely symptomatically the Vorwerk advertisement shows the insanity, which happens today, in which a mother gives to be Managerin of a small exempt private company.

Which please is that. Housewife and mother, or house man and father to be is nevertheless really nothing honour-active.

Besides is it high time that the German bishops announce themselves times again to word. Each rabbi of a tiny municipality and each x-arbitrary Mullah get today transmission place on the television. Where please do the bishops remain taking, the position?

Chapeau bishop Mixa for the clear words.

Perhaps finally times a replacement for blessed bishop Dyba comes.

agmen: Cordial thanks, bishop Mixa, for the courageous words!!!

Also it shows parents, who do not send their children into the crib to want to take part in the financing of cribs that there are backwards-turned currents also in the SPD: Who wants to take the freedom to parents to even decide how and/or where its children are drawn up, the march direction hits to paternalistischen, totalitarian state à la GDR. Against the line regarded this proposal means a financial punishment of parents, who do not place their children under control a state crib, because they must on the one hand for the private supply of their children (approximately over a child girl, from whose personnel expenditure one cannot make also today only 4000 euros per annum - m.E anything for taxation valid as Gleichmacherei from social envy!) arise and on the other hand the by the state ordered cribs co-finance.

Pfui devil SPD!

MilesChristi: Heuchlerei

The discussion around the topic „care of children “is extremely heuchlerisch in my eyes.
Also I that a child needs the mother and/or the father, think particularly in its first years of life. Which the majority however forgets - perhaps because they do not know the problem at all - is this: then the current „red “- the black governments in Germany, nothing at all different one remains for many families, due to the anti-social policy first „red “- to become green, than working, in order to be able to survive at all. Many the postings to this topic do not have either children, or are wealthy enough, in order to be able to afford the luxury that only one parents work except house. These people does not do it to pain, if the mother does not work except house. Probably however those, with unemployment, resin IV, hard labour (vulgo 1-EUR-Jobs), Lohndumping etc. daily to argue must.

methusalix †: Are you safe Mr. Stöhr?

Daniel Stöhr: Evolutionsiten and that is it „trick “with that it occasionally probably is mistaken (probably from a atheistischen need structure) -

You are probable it. They have a strong faith. That closes knowledge, which must also again be compiled in the light of new realizations, to a large extent out.

I am sure me in addition, that your refusal of scientific realizations which is due from ignorance and strong faith is due to two hundred years, with you and the other supporters of the Mirakel, evenly also from your fundamentalist need structure.

They have simply fear that the science away-proves your God to you simply „“.

There I can calm you down. Is not to be remembered.
Every time the science a question eantwortet, one hundred new questions arise.

If you have the first mountain summit erklommen, see only the mountains. Thus you come to the peace. Their fears are unfounded.

Count von Qalen †: From the editorship removes

Aurelius: Cover by Meisner

According to WDR message gave cardinal Meisner (Kölle at the Rhing) to bishop Mixa cover.

I had actually hoped, wanted to leave the fingers of public criticism at German Christian democrats and/or Bavarian Christian-social to Meisner in the chamfering time times.

rolf34: That is

correctly, which you write (at least in the 2nd paragraph). But back to my question. That would really interest me.

Ydefix: The Evolutionsiten

- and that is it „trick “with that it occasionally probably is mistaken (probably from a atheistischen need structure) - it speaks geren of the fact that „the evolution “provided for the necessary adjustments. At the same time they persist however in the fact that their theory on nothing when on the coincidence + selection develops. Astronomical improbablenesses produces whereupon it then for the inch-long periods refuge takes.

It does not speak anything for the fact that the Neanderthaler was less intelligent than the jet time human being. The Homo Erectus had a smaller brain, but it moves still in the spectrum, which today's peoples exhibit. Clearly expressed: If the brain has once a certain size, then those does not play much spreads (also today) Varaiabilität within these borders a role. It does not have influence on intelligence, on the contrary is probably connected with cooling differences. Neanderthaler were not primitive, had a social structure, bestatteten dead one, built flutes etc. „primitive “were the early people probably only to that extent that them did not logical-prove simply our know-how yet had, which we could accumulate over thousands of years.

rolf34: @Daniel Stöhr

Well, then I read it at least in the literature and I think that sounds logical… at least for me.

That actually means that you assume we all from two humans descend, or which „the Zündfunke came “to the Erschaffung of humans of God. If, where it begins, humans, the God created and which is with allden other proven fossils of the Homo Erectus up to us.

God hard: Recommendation

I recommend bishop Mixa to close all kindergartens in working group of the church municipalities of its diocese not to make around itself guiltily at this „bearing machine ideology “. Zumindestens might not receive these kindergartens funds from the church tax more.
The families of its diocese will then recognize the clear theory of their kath. bishop…

and a same recommendation goes to the diocese Regensburg!

Counter in a revolutionary manner: Rudolfo

with us in Austria Christian-democratic policy looks in such a way: http://diestandard.at/?url=/?id=27806…

therefore www.diechristen.at select

Rodolfo Panetta: Quite so, bishop Mixa!

It is intolerable, how many other German bishops with the wolves are silent to howl or entered. This again-fashionable „Christian-democratic “family policy is simply schäbig!

Ydefix: @rolf34:

„That it came, could to mutations surely different reasons have. Probably the necessity for adjustment to new living conditions. “

Now, exactly this explanation became an evolution biologist does not aktzeptieren! The Lamarckismus (transmission of acquired characteristics), think I, from nobody more represented. The difficulty lies straight in the fact that alone the selection should be the steering principle. Mutations are always completely nondirectional against it. The majority does not affect at all or negatively the organism.

methusalix †: Hello Sulpi!

Sulpicius: @methu
„Adenauer republic on the heaps of muck of history gebombt “

However, it terrorist Symphatisant!

With leaves, Sulpicius this word choice does not come from me. Our smaller like gladly in a revolutionary manner is here the nuclear bomber. I may quote it:

Counter in a revolutionary manner: Toolism
and sexual 68er revolution is worse than 1000 atom bombs!!!! (Ideology kills the soul, Atombomen however only the body)

In addition it seems to be the body of despising Masochist and/or Sadist; depending on whom it is to meet. That does not seem to be so rare however in the catholicism by any means, if I think there of the bus exercises with the tractor with the Santa mafia.

rolf34: @Daniel Stöhr

The fact that it came to mutations could have surely different reasons. Probably the necessity for adjustment to new living conditions. But it had to come still more to it. By selection the new Genmutationen had to also keep and reproduce. Also random effects had as even by isolation of other ape existence.
A mutation could surely be suddenly necessary the upright course become. And came not today on tomorrow.

Ydefix: The problem is the always following thereby

If we do not proceed from one „guided “evolution (so far still of no researcher heard, who states sowas), then must humans from this ape population alone on the basis of purely coincidental mutations have developed: Thus coincidentally two things must have accumulated at the right time: a) the enstsprechenden mutations, those the upright course make possible (otherwise it would be probably unndenkbar the forest too abandoned without a negative selection printing to produce) and b) at the same time the appropriate obligation to leave the forest (otherwise it would not have any selection advantage). One must also consider with the fact that the upright course makes an adjustment of the entire organism necessary! I find that rather with difficulty conceivable and improbable everything.

rolf34: @Daniel Stöhr

Environmental influences are to have forced some apes „the forest “to leave. Because of worse conditions these apes had to let themselves be broken in somewhat, in order not to become extinct. This „pageant “is to have taken place in Central Africa. Since however not all apes lived there, evenly the evolution separated there. Thus there were also different kinds of people, like next to each other e.g. the Neanderthal man and the Homo Sapiens.

I do not believe in the fact that we all from two humans are to descend. That would be the most gigantic Inzest at all…